【もはやオワコン】妖怪ウォッチがポケモンみたいになれなかった理由wwww
1: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 02:44:50.62 ID:i0Ua/Xo30
って何だと思う？
ポケモンファンの意見を聞きたい
ポケモンファンの意見を聞きたい
2: ダーク王鍬大使 ◆SoVpkB15jY 2017/11/21(火) 02:48:55.76 ID:LsEwWLAa0
対して人気ないのにポケモン人気にあやかって無理やりブームだブームだってゴリ押ししてればいつかボロが出るでひょう（＾＾
韓流ブームや健康ブーム系全般がいつまでもブームだってゴリ押ししても定着しなかったんでふから（＾＾
そのあたりは歴史から学んでほしいでふね（＾＾
韓流ブームや健康ブーム系全般がいつまでもブームだってゴリ押ししても定着しなかったんでふから（＾＾
そのあたりは歴史から学んでほしいでふね（＾＾
3: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 02:54:25.27 ID:gdzmka0w0
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4: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 03:42:01.47 ID:YyE+AYG90
ポケモンは当時オワコン視されてたゲームボーイで発売されてたけど面白いということで口コミで広まってから各メディアが便乗して取り上げ出した
妖怪はメディアに投資して人工的にブームを作り流行しているかのように見せていただけなので固定ファンを確保できず流行だから触れてみただけの人にはすぐに飽きられて終わった
しかしレベルファイブの作品は息の長い作品より性別や世代などピンポイントに絞って単発で当てていくのが上手いのでこれからもその手法の方が良いと思う
妖怪ウォッチに変わる新たなクロスメディア作品としてスナックワールドを2年ほど前から短編映画を上映したりCGアニメを放送してブーム製作の下ごしらえをしていたけど、
ゲームソフトは20万本程度の爆死で、玩具の販売形態も顧客の足元を見た酷い方法なので始まる前から終わっていた作品となってしまった
おかげで引退しようと思っていた妖怪ウォッチは落ち目でも、スナックワールドのマイナス分をほんの少しでも回収するため徴兵されてる
国内では人気がないが海外では注目されている二ノ国や、腐女子に人気のイナズマイレブンがまた稼働するからまだまだ大丈夫
特に腐女子は近年の男性オタクよりもばんばんカネを落としてくれやすい存在だから捨て身でそっちに媚びるのもアリ
妖怪はメディアに投資して人工的にブームを作り流行しているかのように見せていただけなので固定ファンを確保できず流行だから触れてみただけの人にはすぐに飽きられて終わった
しかしレベルファイブの作品は息の長い作品より性別や世代などピンポイントに絞って単発で当てていくのが上手いのでこれからもその手法の方が良いと思う
妖怪ウォッチに変わる新たなクロスメディア作品としてスナックワールドを2年ほど前から短編映画を上映したりCGアニメを放送してブーム製作の下ごしらえをしていたけど、
ゲームソフトは20万本程度の爆死で、玩具の販売形態も顧客の足元を見た酷い方法なので始まる前から終わっていた作品となってしまった
おかげで引退しようと思っていた妖怪ウォッチは落ち目でも、スナックワールドのマイナス分をほんの少しでも回収するため徴兵されてる
国内では人気がないが海外では注目されている二ノ国や、腐女子に人気のイナズマイレブンがまた稼働するからまだまだ大丈夫
特に腐女子は近年の男性オタクよりもばんばんカネを落としてくれやすい存在だから捨て身でそっちに媚びるのもアリ
5: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 04:20:49.01 ID:7St4X+GW0
キャラがきもすぎた
かわいいのはかわいいけど、ひどいのはほんとひどい
かわいいのはかわいいけど、ひどいのはほんとひどい
6: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 05:41:25.91 ID:plHIRGwL0
切り札使うのが早すぎ（CG化など）
子供層だけ（親や兄弟は巻き込まれた感というところ）
外伝作品少ない
流行りの要因は”メダル”であり、コンテンツそのものじゃない
会社規模の弱さ（任天堂にはかなわなかった意味で）
時代の問題
子供層だけ（親や兄弟は巻き込まれた感というところ）
外伝作品少ない
流行りの要因は”メダル”であり、コンテンツそのものじゃない
会社規模の弱さ（任天堂にはかなわなかった意味で）
時代の問題
特に最後の「時代の問題」はかなりでかい。
CD・通信ケーブル・カードゲーム・漫画
これらはどれも、インターネットがない子ども達が遊ぶには格好のコンテンツで全面的に押し出せた。
更に携帯ゲームに限らず、任天堂の優遇で６４とコラボできたりなど、
ポケモンから発祥するゲームの進化もウケて相乗効果になったのが勝因。先駆者がいないというのもやはり強かった。
一方今の時代は子供にもスマホに手が届き、パソコンが習い事にさえする時代。
便利すぎるコンテンツもあるが、何より情報量が一度に大量に手に入りやすい。
故に瞬間的には強くても、継続はしない。これが違いだろうに。多分けものフレンズもそう（あれは別の要因もあったが）
ポケモンも今はこの影響を受けているせいか、GOも便利になりすぎてズル（位置偽造等）からブームが冷めたり
ポケダンなども”制約”の中で作られることで輝いたものも、今は自由度が大きくなりすぎて価値が薄れていくなど、
外伝ものはポケモンといえど苦戦しているイメージ。
あとはポケモンを楽しく作ってくれている制作者達の勢いだろう。任天堂関連は”継続力”というのには本当強いから今も楽しめるんだと思う
27: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/22(水) 06:14:45.55 ID:ZhL3aIo60
>>6
>>ポケモンを楽しく作ってくれている制作者達
本人達は楽しいのかもしれんが、不快な図鑑説明、ネットジョークやキャラ改悪その他のせいでこっちは宇宙塩を味噌鰤だぞ
>>ポケモンを楽しく作ってくれている制作者達
本人達は楽しいのかもしれんが、不快な図鑑説明、ネットジョークやキャラ改悪その他のせいでこっちは宇宙塩を味噌鰤だぞ
8: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 11:46:47.02 ID:K4vyq3I00
あからさまに人気取りに必死なニャン系が増えてウザくなった
9: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 11:49:48.26 ID:Mfzy3SJq0
中身がほぼ変わらないものを新作として分割で売ることをしなかったから
10: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 12:16:19.93 ID:0NJyppfe0
自分はコマさん好きの妖怪ウォッチのファンも兼ねているけど妖怪には思い付きだけで作られた捨てキャラが結構いるのでポケモンに比べると愛着度が弱い
またグッズ販売を一手に請け負っているヨロズマートは店舗数も少なく通販もないのが辛い
ぬいぐるみもLサイズとSサイズ別々にリリースされているようだが全く統一性がなく集めるのに大変苦労する
またグッズ販売を一手に請け負っているヨロズマートは店舗数も少なく通販もないのが辛い
ぬいぐるみもLサイズとSサイズ別々にリリースされているようだが全く統一性がなく集めるのに大変苦労する
11: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 13:01:25.55 ID:7Dus5Jx10
＞【悲報】『妖怪ウォッチ』ブーム終了へ 売上高がピークの5分の1にまで落ち込む
はちまの今年の記事より
マジでブーム終わってた模様
13: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 16:58:30.42 ID:X1EahXLJ0
妖怪ウォッチってコロコロでゴリ押ししてガキを洗脳してたから人気あっただけでしょ
14: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 17:08:32.47 ID:kIeJddXt0
ポケモンと違って中身が無いから
36: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/23(木) 10:18:18.86 ID:T3JyCqGh0
>>14
これ
これ
15: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 17:48:38.21 ID:Lw2yHyQT0
大学で妖怪ウォッチサークルとか永遠に設立されることがない内容だから
16: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/21(火) 18:26:42.00 ID:iG3stqv60
主人公がコテコテに設定付けされてて喋るから
23: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/22(水) 01:29:44.91 ID:jybkiwxX0
レベルファイブのコンテンツってすぐ飽きられるな
ダンボールだのイナズマなんたらにしろ
ダンボールだのイナズマなんたらにしろ
25: 名無しさん、君に決めた！ 2017/11/22(水) 02:04:23.38 ID:qQMHOuh10
レベルファイブお得意のゴリ押し商法の限界
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